بررسی Lenovo Legion 5 (2021) - هنوز هم بهترین لپ‌تاپ گیمینگ Ryzen؟

Is the Lenovo Legion 5 still the best Ryzen gaming laptop? Find out everything about the new 2021 model with Ryzen 7 5800H and Nvidia RTX 3060 in this review! 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My Website - https://jarrods.tech ???? 2nd Channel - https://youtube.com/jarrodslaptops Lenovo Legion 5 Review Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:09 Legion 5 Specs 0:38 Design / Size & Weight 1:04 Screen 2:21 Camera / Mics 2:37 Keyboard & Touchpad 3:26 I/O Ports 4:35 Build Quality 5:13 Getting Inside + Internals 6:05 Speakers / Latencymon 6:17 Battery Life 7:19 Software Performance Modes 7:43 Thermals / Clock Speed / TDP 9:14 CPU Performance - Cinebench 9:58 Keyboard Temperatures 10:20 Fan Noise 10:56 Game Performance Comparison 13:43 Content Creation 14:30 Storage Testing 14:38 BIOS 15:04 Linux Support 15:21 Pricing & Availability 16:12 Conclusion We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Last year I said the Lenovo Legion 5 was thbest Ryzen gaming laptop available for thmoney, so let’s find out if that’s stilthe case and if this year’s new refreshemodel is worth considering. I bought the Ryzen 7 5800H plus Nvidia RT3060 configuration for testing, as I thoughthat would be of most interest. Mine came with 16 gigs of memory, a 512 giSSD and a 15.6” 1080p 165Hz screen. Now there is also an all AMD version of thLegion 5 with the new RX 6600M graphics, buI’m still trying to get it, and there aralso other Nvidia options with both loweand higher GPUs. You can check out other configurations awell as updated prices with those links dowin the description. The Legion 5 has an all plastic build, buI thought it felt nice enough. The finish is called phantom blue, a darkeblue basically, but there’s also a stingrawhite finish. The laptop alone weighs about 2.5kg or 5.5lbthen 3.5kg or 7.8lb total with the large 30watt power brick and cables, so on the heavieside for a 15” laptop. It’s not thin or anything, but not hugeither, just a regular 15” gaming laptosize. The 15.6” 1080p 165Hz screen has decencolor gamut for a gaming laptop, above averagcontrast, but the FreeSync range starts relativelhigh. The screen gets above 300 nits at maximubrightness, but it gets dim quite quicklwithout a whole lot of control at lower levels. The Lenovo Vantage software, the control panefor the laptop, lets you enable or disabloptimus, aka hybrid mode. With optimus enabled the screen still haFreeSync, and with optimus disabled you’vinstead got the option of G-Sync, so besof both worlds however you run it. The vantage software also gives us the optioto enable or disable panel overdrive, whicshould affect screen response time. I didn’t actually find a difference betweeoverdrive on or off though, so not sure ithis was a bug, but we’re looking at jusunder a 7ms average grey-to-grey responstime. It’s not amazing compared to others, evethe 144Hz panel in last year’s Legion was more than 2ms faster, so hopefully thoverdrive mode gets improved in a future softwarupdate, as the Lenovo site claims a 3ms responstime with overdrive. This is the amount of time it takes from mouse button press to when a gunshot firein CS:GO. The total system latency was on the sloweside, with more inconsistent results as pethe higher standard deviation. Backlight bleed was very minor, I never noticeit during normal use, but it will vary betweelaptop and panel. There’s a 720p camera above the screen ithe middle, no IR for Windows Hello thoughbut there’s a switch on the right that physicalldisconnects the camera for privacy. This is what the camera and microphone looand sound like, and this is what it soundlike while I’m typing on the keyboard, anyou can actually see that the screen is wobblina bit while I’m typing. The Legion 5 is available with either a whitbacklit keyboard, or 4 zone RGB, which iwhat mine has. You can use the function plus space shortcuto cycle through a few different effects oturn it off, however there doesn’t appeato be a keyboard shortcut for adjusting brightness. This is instead controlled through the Vantagsoftware with two levels of brightness, anthe speed of the effect can be adjusted betweefour different speed levels. You can modify the three profiles how yolike then use function and space to cyclbetween your changes. All keys and secondary functions get lit up. It’s got 1.5mm of key travel, and I’glad that the arrow keys aren’t small likothers. As with other Lenovo laptops, personally liked typing on the keyboard. The precision touchpad is mylar, so plastic. It feels nice and smooth, clicks anywhereand works fine. It never got in the way while typing or playingames. The left has an air exhaust vent, a USB 3.Gen2 Type-C port and a 3.5mm audio combo jack. The right has the camera disconnect switcha USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-A port, and there’an air exhaust on this side too. The rest of the I/O is on the back betweetwo corner air exhausts. From left to right we’ve got a gigabit etherneport, second USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-C port, thremore USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-A ports for 4 in totalHDMI 2.1 output, and the power input on thright. The Type-C port on the back of the laptocan be used to charge it, but the one on thfront left cannot. Both Type-C ports offer DisplayPort 1.4 supportso you can attach an external screen to eitheof them and both connect directly to the Nvidigraphics. There are some icons above the rear portto help you see where you need to plug iwithout turning the laptop around, but thecan be hard to see in a darker room, as thedon’t light up like the Legion 7. There’s nothing on the front, however thmiddle sticks out a little making it vereasy to grip onto when opening the lid, anthe lid goes the full 180 degrees back fosharing. You can also optionally enable flip to bootwhich automatically powers the laptop on wheyou open the lid, something I prefer givechances are I want to use the machine wheI do this. Some of you were asking about hinge issuesI’m not aware of any with the 5 series specificallyand the images of the inside of the lid froLenovo seem to show that it has the bettereinforced hinge design. There’s some flex to the plastic screenand as mentioned earlier mine did wobble little while typing. The plastic lid has that phantom blue finishand the Legion text has a sort of rainboeffect that can be seen depending on the anglof light. There’s some flex to plastic interior, howevethis wasn’t anything I noticed during normause outside of intentionally pushing hard. The bottom panel just has some air vents towardthe back and speakers near the front, anwe can see that most of the back has a dusfilter with the exception of directly abovthe fans. Getting inside requires removing 12 Philliphead screws of two different lengths, anlike other Legion laptops it can be a biawkward to open. I actually broke off two of the plastic clipin my attempt. I found it easier to open by prying arounthe back using the tools linked in the description. Just be careful pulling it off as I’ve hacracks near the air vents before. Once inside there are metal plates over thM.2 slots. These are removed by taking out 3 smallephillips head screws from each, while thmemory cover can just be pried off, I waable to use my fingernails. There are thermal pads on both of the storagcovers. With the metal coverings removed, we’vgot the 80Wh battery down the front, two M.storage slots above on the left and rightWi-Fi 6 card on the right, and two memorslots in the middle. As was the case with the higher tier Legio5 Pro, my regular Legion 5 uses the exacsame x16 memory, so swapping it to x8 memorshould give a speed boost, and I’ll shoyou this when we get to the game tests. The two speakers are found underneath on thleft and right sides towards the front. I thought they sounded pretty average foa laptop, not great, there’s minimal basand they’re a bit tinny at higher volumeand the latencymon results were looking alright. My Legion 5 has a 4-Cell 80Wh battery, buthere’s also a smaller 60Wh version tooso expect lower run time with that. I’ve tested it with hybrid mode, aka optimusboth on and off, demonstrating that with ioff the Nvidia GPU burns through more powerresulting in less run time. It’s doing quite well when compared to othelaptops, lasting for more than 9 and a halhours in the YouTube playback test, thougit’s not quite matching last year’s Legio5, granted that one also has lower specs too. You can also run the Legion 5 with a smalle230 watt power brick, I would think that shoulbe enough to run the 5800H and 3060 as it’enough for other laptops, but I don’t havthat brick to test. Unlike the higher tier Legion 5 Pro, there’no built in Fn plus R shortcut to swap thscreen to 60Hz, so I haven’t bothered testinbattery life with that as there’s no easbuilt in shortcut, but presumably if you diswap to 60Hz that would boost the batterlife even further. What’s weird to me is that the BIOS changelofor the Legion 5 since version 23 actuallsays that they removed the Fn plus R shortcut. No idea why, but it sounds like it used tbe there. Let’s check out thermals next. The Lenovo Vantage software lets us changbetween different performance modes, whicfrom lowest to highest are quiet, balancand performance. Balance mode also has an additional optiofor automatically adjusting the performancbased on the workload, so I’ve tested thitoo. The power button is above the keyboard, anits light color changes to show the currenperformance mode in use, which can be changeat any time with the function plus Q shortcut. The idle results down the bottom are quitcool, though as you’ll hear later, the fanwere still going. I’ve run stress tests with both the CPand GPU loaded up to represent a worst caseas well as playing an actual game. Overall the results are looking quite goodworst case the CPU appears to have hit thermathrottling at 95 degrees Celsius in the strestest with the highest performance mode, buwe could greatly reduce this by using a coolinpad - the one I test with is linked beloin the description. Otherwise we’re sitting in the mid 80s witno throttling on the GPU. These are the clock speeds from the same tests. The CPU clock speed hardly changes outsidof quiet mode, but we can see the GPU speegets a nice boost in performance mode, spresumably it’s the extra GPU power that’responsible for increasing the CPU temperaturin performance mode, as the cooler has a heapipe shared between both, and the CPU performancisn’t exactly getting better. We can see this when looking at the powelevels being hit. The RTX 3060 is running at about 80 wattin quiet and balance modes, at least witthis consistent stress test. It differs a bit when running an actual gamepossibly due to dynamic boost. This is a full powered 3060, running up t115 watts when the CPU is also under loadbut it can boost to 130 watts if the processoisn’t loaded up. There’s no difference in these specifiworkloads in the balance plus automatic tunsetting and I think this is because Lenovsays that it’s only supported in 16 differengames. That said, when I did thermal testing on thLegion 7 in these same workloads I did semore of a difference there. Here’s how an actual game performs witthe different modes in use. Performance mode does the best, and I wasn’seeing any difference with balance mode anthe automatic tune option. Here’s how the different modes perform iCinebench R23, a CPU only workload with thGPU now idle. The single core performance in quiet modwas super low, balance was much more reasonablethen of course performance mode was best. It’s doing alright compared to others, little behind the higher tier 5 Pro with samRyzen 7 5800H, and 15% better than the lasgen Legion 5 with Ryzen 7 4800H when it cometo single core gains, while multicore is abou14% higher than last year’s model. It’s still doing quite well when runninon battery power, when unplugged the highesperformance mode you can use is balance. The single core score is mostly unaffectedwhile last year’s 4800H model was now jusslightly ahead in multicore performance, buit’s still ahead of the Intel 11th gen modelin multi core, though not single core. It’s quite cool when just sitting theridle. 30 degrees Celsius is pretty common, but thLegion 5 was generally below this. With the stress tests running it’s stilbarely warm on the keyboard, worst case ithe low 40s. Balance mode isn’t much different, but thfans increase to offset the higher performance. It’s a similar deal in the highest performancmode. There appears to be a warmer spot near tharrow keys but even touching it directly doesn’feel hot. Let's listen to the fan noise. The fans were still audible when idling iquiet mode, not loud or anything, but thiprobably explains the cooler keyboard aninternal temps. Fan noise gets louder in the higher modeas you’d expect. Unfortunately there’s no fan control, sthese examples represent the loudest it shoulget when fully maxed out under heavy load. Now let’s find out how well this configuratioof Legion 5 performs in games and compareagainst other laptops. All of the game testing has been done in performancmode with hybrid mode disabled for the besresults as this gives better FPS. I’ve also tested these games with the stocmemory, and with my own memory upgrade tx8 sticks. On paper both memory kits have two 8 gig sticksso 16 gigs in dual channel. They’re both DDR4-3200 CL22 single rankbut the stock kit has slower timings and x1banks. You can find the memory kit that I’ve testelinked down in the description below. Cyberpunk 2077 was tested in little Chinwith the street kid life path on all laptopsand I’ve got the Legion 5 with stock RAhighlighted in red, and the upgraded RAM highlightein green. The memory change is giving a larger boosto 1% lows than average FPS in this testbut even with stock RAM this is still thfastest RTX 3060 I’ve tested so far. The MSI GS76 with lower GPU power limit iabout 10 FPS behind, and similar deal fothe even lower wattage 3060 in the ZephyruG14, though that is also much smaller too. Red Dead Redemption 2 was tested with thgame’s benchmark. There’s a bit more of a difference thitime between the stock and upgraded RAM. The upgraded Legion 5 is just a few FPS behinthe i9 and RTX 3070 in the Zephyrus M16 onposition ahead, though the M16 is held bacby optimus, and again even the stock memorLegion 5 is beating the other 3060 laptopthat I’ve tested so far. Impressively the Dell G5 with last gen 5600is close to the 3060s, so I can’t wait ttry out the newer 6600M legion 5 in futuremake sure you’re subscribed for that one. Control was tested running through the sampart of the game on all laptops. There’s basically no difference in thiGPU heavy game with the upgraded memory, anwe’re just a couple FPS behind the highespecced HP Omen 15 with RTX 3070, presumabldue to the Omen’s lower GPU power limiand lack of disabling optimus. The Legion 5 is still the best 3060 resulI’ve got, easily ahead of the lower wattagMSI GS76 and ASUS G14 below, and we’re reachinmore than 60% higher average FPS compareto the last gen Legion 5 with GTX 1660 Ti. Unfortunately I never had the 2060 model tcompare with, but I will compare the 206and 3060 in an upcoming video, so stay tuned. I’ve tested 10 games in total at all settinlevels with both the stock memory and thupgraded memory in this video over here iyou want to get a better understanding owhat sort of a performance difference thimakes. Basically it depends on the game and you cacertainly get performance improvements witthe better memory, but for the most part found the differences were bigger at lowesetting levels, and fact is with RTX 306graphics you’re probably going to be usinhigher settings, so based on this I don’think the RAM upgrade is absolutely necessary. It’s mostly just a nice bonus, but it doedepend on the specific game and settings. Here are the results from 3DMark for thosthat find them useful. Now for some creator tests. Adobe Premiere was tested with the Puget Systembenchmark. The Legion 5 was about 11% higher than lasyear’s 4800H plus 1660 Ti Legion 5, so lesof a difference going from Ryzen 4000 to 5000at least compared to the improvement seewith Intel’s 11th gen, which is dominatinthe top of the graph. Adobe Photoshop generally depends on CPU performanceand again mostly Intel 11th gen near the toof the graph, but a few Ryzen options thertoo. The Legion 5 is doing better than the Alienwarm15 R5 just below it, despite that havinhigher tier CPU and GPU. DaVinci Resolve is more GPU heavy, thougthe Legion 5 is slightly beaten by the lowewattage 3060 in the GS76 just above it, sperhaps Intel 11th gen is giving it an edgthere compared to Ryzen. I’ve also tested SPECviewperf which testout various professional 3D workloads. The 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD is doing well for botreads and writes, and there’s always thasecond M.2 slot if you want to install anothedrive. The BIOS has quite a few options compareto some other laptops, granted many of theare also options that can be configured througsoftware, such as flip to boot. You can enable GPU overclocking through herand control it, but for some reason there’no option to enable it or control it througthe Vantage software, which was the case witlast year’s Legion 5. It also has TPM 2.0. Once GPU overclocking is enabled in the BIOSthe vantage software reflects this and showyou it’s on, but yeah I couldn’t see way of adjusting it here. I booted an Ubuntu 21 live CD to test Linusupport. Out of the box the touchpad, keyboard, speakersethernet and camera worked, but Wi-Fi wasn’recognized. The best thing is that the keyboard lightineffects and performance modes are baked intfirmware, so you can still change them witthe keyboard shortcuts without software. Let’s discuss pricing and availability next. Both of these will of course change over timso refer to updates with those links in thdescription, as Lenovo in particular do ofterun sales. At the time of recording, the Legion 5 startat $1100 USD, but that’s with the Ryze5 5600H processor and RTX 3050 graphics. Now the 5600H is perfectly fine for gaminin my personal opinion, but the 4 gig VRAlimit of the RTX 3050 or 3050 Ti could ba bit limiting, as I’ve shown in this videover here. The Radeon 6600M version is $1300 in the USand that’s meant to be an RTX 3060 competitoaccording to AMD. It looks cheaper than the 3060 model, buif we look closer it has half the RAM anno SSD by default, so prices will change ayou customize it to your needs, which agaiyou can do with the link down in the description. It’s also worth noting that these specifioptions are listed with smaller 60Wh batteries. Overall there's not a whole lot of changefrom last year's Legion 5, which isn't necessarila bad thing given I did award that the besRyzen gaming laptop for the money for 2020. Is it still the bestWell, no, at least not strictly speaking iterms of things like best performance anmost features - I mean Lenovo even have theihigher tier Legion 7 now for instance. 2021 has introduced a lot of new Ryzen gaminlaptops, far more than we ever had last year. I’ve still got a few models to test oubefore I make my updated best laptops of 202video, so make sure you’re subscribed fothat. This year’s Legion 5 is of course refreshewith newer CPU and GPU options, and the additioof G-Sync and higher refresh rate screen iwelcome, though it would have been bettefor it to come with faster x8 memory by defaultbut I get it, supply issues during a pandemiand all that. It's the same reason that Legion laptops havbeen so hard to get lately, some of them arlisted as being 4 plus months away. Apart from that slower memory, which can bupgraded, granted at additional cost, theraren’t too many other negatives to complaiabout with this year’s Legion 5. I just hope we see some sort of update fothe screen overdrive option, as right nothe response time is actually slower compareto last year’s Legion 5 with 144Hz screen. Battery life was otherwise great, but I’not sure why they decided to remove the functioplus R shortcut to automatically swap thscreen to 60Hz, as that would have been aeasy way to boost battery life even further. So all things considered, this year’s Legio5 is a gaming laptop that I can recommendit just comes down to pricing and availabilitywhich I suppose is the case with most thingat the moment. I hope to compare the 5 against the highetier 5 Pro in a future video, but basicallthe key differences seem to be some changeto the exterior and that the 5 Pro has th16” 16:10 screen with a higher resolution. If you’re new to the channel then get subscribefor that upcoming comparison as well as futurgaming laptop reviews like this one. Come and join me in Discord and get behinthe scenes videos by supporting the channeon Patreon, and come and check out some omy other videos over here next, includinthe one where I tested the Legion 5 in 1different games at all setting levels witboth stock and upgraded memory - I’ll seyou over in one of those next.